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Telco 68 Tues March 9th 2010

Created: Tuesday, Mar 09/2010 17:14

Attending: Eric, Phil, Sarah, Gerry, Charlotte, Sylvia, Mark M, Allyn, Hans, Bryan, Sebastien, Mark E, Lois, Marie-Pierre

Apologies: Balaji, Sophie

Next telco: Tues 16th March 2010, 3pm BST/4pm CET

Actions

A. Charlotte and Allyn to discuss ensembles off-line.

A. Everyone should continue to test the questionnaire and make tickets for the bugs/issues.

A. Everyone to comment on tickets 683 and 684.

A. Marie-Pierre to email her remaining questions about grids to the list individually and pester people until she gets answers. Answers are needed by Monday next week.

A. Charlotte to create a ticket to test questionnaire under different browsers and versions of browsers - done (ticket 686)

A. Sarah to take the information about the questionnaire and controlled vocabulary out of the various work package reports and harmonise them in a seperate section in the annual report.

A. Everyone to check that the details in NEF for ammendment 2 are correct.

A. Bryan and Sylvia to discuss off-line the issue of realm and orphan components.

A. Everyone to look at the ESG demo page at http://curator.ucar.edu/trackback/query.htm?d=esg:modelcomponent_higem&session=true and send their comments to Sylvia.

A. Eric to reply to Marie-Pierre's email about biogeochemistry controlled vocabulary.

Previous Actions

A. Everyone needs to look through the tickets at http://metaforclimate.eu/trac/report/14 and make sure that all tickets that need to be done before questionnaire release are there and are either in the critical or blocker categories. - ongoing

A. Work package leaders are to send work package reports as close as possible to the 10 March to Sarah and Eric. The same deadline applies to all the institutions for form C figures. - ongoing

A. Julien and Rupert to have a chat about how to move names from questionnaire to ESG. - Ongoing

Previous completed actions:

A. Marie-Pierre to come up with an initial plan for the grids stuff to discuss with Bryan. - done

A. Allyn to add comment to 533 about ensembles in the CIM. - done

A. Gerry will populate example modelling group (ticket 359) when questionnaire is live. - ongoing - not needed at telcos so removed

A. Marie-Pierre to ticket about possible user confusion if they specify atmosphere-only model, as this doesn't feed through to the component tree. ticket 662 - done

A. Marie-Pierre, Gerry, Rupert discuss off-line the issue of realm names of components should match DRS ones. Marie-Pierre to make a ticket for this. - done

A. Gerry to email Rupert with 2 sets of lists for the issue of the output of questionnaire needs to match DRS. Gerry to write a ticket about this and copy Allyn and Rupert in. - done

A. Gerry to spend 2-3 days producing a questionnaire instance with plausible (if not scientific) answers for ESG to check their import procedure with. - made a start - hopes to have a good copy by end of the week. - ongoing - but removed from list of actions

A. Bryan and Marie-Pierre to make a decision about what to do about grids on the 2nd March. - done

Decisions:

D. Topography should stay in key properties of each realm.

D. Sarah can continue working with the CIM city cartoon.

Issues:

I. Will handling TAMIP cause problems for the questionnaire tables? See ticket 683.

I. Marie-Pierre's grid questions.

I. 4th GEO European Projects Workshop - need to make a decision by 20th March. Discuss off line.

- review of actions from previous telco

Lois still firming up M24 deliverable for WP2. Allyn still working on 2 deliverables for wp5 due this month.

- questionnaire news (Bryan, Charlotte)

Questionnaire back as beta 4 on http://q.cmip5.ceda.ac.uk Some bits are broken (e.g. view/validate) as Rupert hasn't had the chance to react to the recent changes.

Ticket 683 - will handling TAMIP cause problems for the questionnaire tables? We'll have to figure it out as we go. Ticket 684 - how we deal with non-overlapping ensembles. Everyone to comment on tickets 683 and 684. Same problem as decadal. Possible to use a different ensembles type?

- incl. grids plan

Grids are in the questionnaire now and are everywhere as placeholders. There is a ticket about whether we want it anywhere other than the realm level.

There is a need to specify 2 grids, one for horizontal and one for vertical.

We need to get answers to all of Marie-Pierre's grid questions and resolve them, and Rupert needs to formalise them before the grids bit can get fully populated in the questionnaire. Answers by Monday next week. Bryan will make time to populate grids next week.

Discovery grid information needs to be in the CIM.

Mind map for grids gives the ontology and vocabulary for the grids.

Some browser specific issues with the questionnaire. Charlotte to create a ticket to test questionnaire under different browsers and versions of browsers (ticket 686) . This will allow us to tell users which browsers will or won't work.

- Year 2 reporting

Questionnaire and controlled vocab needs to be collected in one section with information about which work packages were involved. Some will be included in WP2 part of annual report.

Sarah to take the information on the questionnaire and controlled vocabulary out of the various work package reports and harmonise them in a seperate section in the annual report.

We can use what was reported in the year 2 meeting to provide information for the report. Can give links to year 2 meeting and presentations in WP1 report.

- Amendment 2

Everyone to check that the details in NEF for ammendment 2 are correct.

- any other news from:

- ESG portal news (Sylvia)

Will ESG ever receive empty components? When validation is turned on there won't be empty components. Users have the choice of saying not implemented.

Remove realm below level 1 in the component tree.

If you use the search to find a lower level component, it won't show the upper levels of the tree. Load the address of the parent component to give the user the chance to move up the tree.

Issue with parent in the fact that one component can have many parents. Difference between classes and instances and unconfigured and confgured model.

- WP4 CIM services (Mark M)

More next week. Telco planned.

- WP3 CIM population and testing news (Sebastien)

More next week. Paco will be joining as subcontractor to BADC.

- WP2 CIM news (Allyn)

Nothing to report. Lots of little changes. CIM 1.4 almost done. Cleaning up pictures and documentation for EU deliverable.

- WP5/6 CIM tools news (Allyn & Hans)

Everything published on svn.

- CV news (Marie-Pierre)

Eric to reply to Marie-Pierre's email about biogeochemistry CV

- Dissemination (Sarah)

Digiman costs 10-20k (roughly) not sure if we can afford it - will check the budget later in the year. Sarah can continue working with the CIM city cartoon.

4th GEO European Projects Workshop - need to make a decision by 20th March. Discuss off line.

- IS-ENES meeting

End of March, Sylvia, Eric, Bryan and Sophie attending.

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